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Major Cell Phone Companies Are Selling Customers’ Locations | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

Major Cell Phone Companies Are Selling Customers’ Locations | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC


. .>>>WELCOME BACK.>>>WELCOME BACK. STEPHANIE? STEPHANIE?>>THANKS SO MUCH.>>THANKS SO MUCH. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE EXTENSIVE WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE EXTENSIVE TRACKING OF YOUR ONLINE ACTIVITY TRACKING OF YOUR ONLINE ACTIVITY AND HOW THAT INFORMATION OFTEN AND HOW THAT INFORMATION OFTEN GETS SOLD FROM COMPANIES LIKE GETS SOLD FROM COMPANIES LIKE FACEBOOK IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE FACEBOOK IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE ACCESS. ACCESS.>>IT’S A DEAL.>>IT’S A DEAL. YOU USE THEIR STUFF FOR FREE. YOU USE THEIR STUFF FOR FREE. THEY HAVE YOUR INFORMATION. THEY HAVE YOUR INFORMATION.>>BUT NOW SOMETHING YOU PAY FOR>>BUT NOW SOMETHING YOU PAY FOR IS ALSO SELLING YOUR IS ALSO SELLING YOUR INFORMATION. INFORMATION. YOUR CELL PHONE. YOUR CELL PHONE.>>A RECENT ARTICLE FOUND THAT>>A RECENT ARTICLE FOUND THAT TAET, T-MOBILE, SPRINT, WERE ALL TAET, T-MOBILE, SPRINT, WERE ALL SELLING LOCATION DATE ON THEIR SELLING LOCATION DATE ON THEIR CUSTOMERS COULD END UP IN THE CUSTOMERS COULD END UP IN THE HANDS OF ANYONE FROM ROADSIDE HANDS OF ANYONE FROM ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE COMPANIES TO, I DON’T ASSISTANCE COMPANIES TO, I DON’T KNOW, STALKERS. KNOW, STALKERS. THE DATA IS ACCURATE WITHIN THE DATA IS ACCURATE WITHIN 1,500 FEET AND CAN BE LIVE IN A 1,500 FEET AND CAN BE LIVE IN A CITY LIKE NEW YORK OR LIKE THIS. CITY LIKE NEW YORK OR LIKE THIS.>>JOINING US NOW, THE FCC>>JOINING US NOW, THE FCC COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER. LET’S START WITH YOU. LET’S START WITH YOU. WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS THIS?>>WHAT THIS REPORTER WAS ABLE>>WHAT THIS REPORTER WAS ABLE TO DO WAS PAY A BOUNTY HUNTER TO DO WAS PAY A BOUNTY HUNTER AND HE IS ABLE TO GET A PICTURE AND HE IS ABLE TO GET A PICTURE OF WHERE HIS PHONE WAS IN OF WHERE HIS PHONE WAS IN REAL-TIME. REAL-TIME. HE UNCOVERED THIS WHOLE WORLD HE UNCOVERED THIS WHOLE WORLD WHERE YOUR OWN CELL PHONE WHERE YOUR OWN CELL PHONE COMPANY THAT YOU’RE PAYING A COMPANY THAT YOU’RE PAYING A MONTHLY FEE FOR IS SELLING YOUR MONTHLY FEE FOR IS SELLING YOUR REAL-TIME LOCATION DATA TO DOZEN REAL-TIME LOCATION DATA TO DOZEN OF COMPANIES WHICH THEN MAY BE OF COMPANIES WHICH THEN MAY BE SELLING IT TO HUNDREDS OF OTHERS SELLING IT TO HUNDREDS OF OTHERS WHO ARE RESELLING WITH IT NO WHO ARE RESELLING WITH IT NO OVERSIGHT. OVERSIGHT. WE DON’T KNOW WHOSE HANDS IT IS WE DON’T KNOW WHOSE HANDS IT IS GETTING INTO. GETTING INTO. A BOUNTY HUNTER, ROADSIDE A BOUNTY HUNTER, ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE OR FOREIGN ASSISTANCE OR FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. INTELLIGENCE.>>THIS IS CRAZY.>>THIS IS CRAZY. I GET THAT THIS SHOULD BE I GET THAT THIS SHOULD BE REGULATED AND I GET THAT AT&T REGULATED AND I GET THAT AT&T AND SPRINT CAN GET IT AND ROBERT AND SPRINT CAN GET IT AND ROBERT MUELLER CAN GET IT. MUELLER CAN GET IT. I’M A LITTLE WORRIED THAT I’M A LITTLE WORRIED THAT SOMEONE CAN PAY A FEW HUNDRED SOMEONE CAN PAY A FEW HUNDRED BUCKS TO A BOUNTY HUNTER AND BUCKS TO A BOUNTY HUNTER AND FIND OUT WHERE IT IS. FIND OUT WHERE IT IS.>>THAT DOESN’T SEEM RIGHT TO ME>>THAT DOESN’T SEEM RIGHT TO ME EITHER. EITHER.>>I THINK THEY NEED>>I THINK THEY NEED INVESTIGATE. INVESTIGATE. IT SHOULDN’T BE YOU CAN PAY A IT SHOULDN’T BE YOU CAN PAY A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS TO A BOUNTY FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS TO A BOUNTY HUNTER AND THEN THEY CAN TELL HUNTER AND THEN THEY CAN TELL YOU IN REAL-TIME WHERE A PHONE YOU IN REAL-TIME WHERE A PHONE IS. IS. THAT’S NOT RIGHT. THAT’S NOT RIGHT. THIS ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM NEEDS SOME THIS ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM NEEDS SOME OVERSIGHT. OVERSIGHT.>>I THINK WE HAVE TO GET TO>>I THINK WE HAVE TO GET TO THIS FAST. THIS FAST. THERE ARE MORE CELL PHONES IN THERE ARE MORE CELL PHONES IN THIS COUNTRY THAN PEOPLE. THIS COUNTRY THAN PEOPLE. SO WE ARE ALL WALKING AROUND SO WE ARE ALL WALKING AROUND WITH THESE DEVICES AND THIS WITH THESE DEVICES AND THIS POTENTIAL IS REAL AND IT IS POTENTIAL IS REAL AND IT IS EVERYWHERE. EVERYWHERE.>>WHY HASN’T THE FTC KNOWN>>WHY HASN’T THE FTC KNOWN THIS? THIS? IT TOOK A REPORTER. IT TOOK A REPORTER.>>YOU HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE WITH>>YOU HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE WITH YOU AT ALL TIMES AND IT IS YOU AT ALL TIMES AND IT IS CONSTANTLY COMMUNICATING WITH CONSTANTLY COMMUNICATING WITH CELL TOWERS NEARBY. CELL TOWERS NEARBY. YOU WANT THAT BECAUSE THAT’S HOW YOU WANT THAT BECAUSE THAT’S HOW YOU GET YOUR TEXTS AND PHONE YOU GET YOUR TEXTS AND PHONE CALLS. CALLS. AS A RESULT OF THAT THEY HAVE A AS A RESULT OF THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE. YOU ARE. IT TURNS OUT OUR WIRELESS IT TURNS OUT OUR WIRELESS COMPANIES ARE SPELLING TO COMPANIES ARE SPELLING TO LOCATION AGGREGATORS WHO IN TURN LOCATION AGGREGATORS WHO IN TURN SELL TO IT SOME SHADY MIDDLEMEN SELL TO IT SOME SHADY MIDDLEMEN AND IT HAS BECOME POSSIBLE FOR AND IT HAS BECOME POSSIBLE FOR ANY OF US TO PAY THEM TO ACCESS ANY OF US TO PAY THEM TO ACCESS INFORMATION ABOUT US IN INFORMATION ABOUT US IN REAL-TIME. REAL-TIME. THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT IS LACKING THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT IS LACKING OVERSIGHT AND IT NEEDS IT. OVERSIGHT AND IT NEEDS IT.>>WE TALK ABOUT BOUNTY HUNTERS.>>WE TALK ABOUT BOUNTY HUNTERS. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE CAN BE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE CAN BE PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS. PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS. THE KIND OF PEOPLE OFTEN USED BY THE KIND OF PEOPLE OFTEN USED BY SPOUSES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, SPOUSES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HARASSING SOMEONE OR STALKERS. HARASSING SOMEONE OR STALKERS. THAT’S THE DANGER. THAT’S THE DANGER.>>THERE’S SUPPOSED TO BE>>THERE’S SUPPOSED TO BE CONSENT FROM THE PEOPLE BEING CONSENT FROM THE PEOPLE BEING TRACKED. TRACKED. AND THE SKIPPING BAIL CASES, AND THE SKIPPING BAIL CASES, THAT THE PEOPLE AGREE TO BE THAT THE PEOPLE AGREE TO BE TRACKED. TRACKED. BUT CLEARLY IT IS NOT BEING BUT CLEARLY IT IS NOT BEING XHEKD THE PEOPLE BEING TRACKED XHEKD THE PEOPLE BEING TRACKED HAVE AGREED TO IT. HAVE AGREED TO IT.>>THAT COULD BE ANY OF US.>>THAT COULD BE ANY OF US. ACCORDING TO THIS, SOMEONE COULD ACCORDING TO THIS, SOMEONE COULD BE TRACKING US AS WE SPEAK. BE TRACKING US AS WE SPEAK.>>THERE’S BEEN A FEW>>THERE’S BEEN A FEW STATEMENTS. STATEMENTS. THEY SAY THEY’RE CRACKING DOWN THEY SAY THEY’RE CRACKING DOWN AND ELIMINATING ALL THESE AND ELIMINATING ALL THESE UNAUTHORIZED USE CASES. UNAUTHORIZED USE CASES. JUST FOR ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE. JUST FOR ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE. EVEN AT THAT LEVEL, DOES IT NEED EVEN AT THAT LEVEL, DOES IT NEED TO BE AS CLOSE AS THAT MAP TO BE AS CLOSE AS THAT MAP SHOWED IN ORDER TO WAVE DOWN A SHOWED IN ORDER TO WAVE DOWN A TOW TRUCK AND SAY HERE’S WHERE I TOW TRUCK AND SAY HERE’S WHERE I AM ON THE ROAD? AM ON THE ROAD?>>THERE ARE LEGITIMATE>>THERE ARE LEGITIMATE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS. DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS. I THINK THERE’S GENERAL I THINK THERE’S GENERAL AGREEMENT THAT TRACKING OF YOU AGREEMENT THAT TRACKING OF YOU AND YOUR PHYSICAL LOCATION, THAT AND YOUR PHYSICAL LOCATION, THAT YOU’RE NOT AWARE OF, I THINK WE YOU’RE NOT AWARE OF, I THINK WE WOULD GET BROAD AGREEMENT THAT WOULD GET BROAD AGREEMENT THAT DOESN’T FEEL RIGHT. DOESN’T FEEL RIGHT.>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY. THERE ARE LONG TIME PRINCIPLES THERE ARE LONG TIME PRINCIPLES HERE. HERE. YOUR PHONE COMPANY CAN KNOW YOUR PHONE COMPANY CAN KNOW WHERE YOU ARE TO PROVIDE WITH WHERE YOU ARE TO PROVIDE WITH YOU SERVICE. YOU SERVICE. YOU WANT THAT. YOU WANT THAT. THEY CAN SEND INFORMATION TO LAW THEY CAN SEND INFORMATION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT IF THERE IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT IF THERE IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT REQUEST. ENFORCEMENT REQUEST. AND THEY CAN DO THINGS WITH YOUR AND THEY CAN DO THINGS WITH YOUR LOCATION IF YOU GIVE THEM LOCATION IF YOU GIVE THEM CONSENT.

44 thoughts on “Major Cell Phone Companies Are Selling Customers’ Locations | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC”

  1. How much would the info about the blocked phone call from Donald Trump jr. during the Trump tower meeting cost me? 🤔

  2. MSNBC would sell your location if you paid them with Illegal aliens FRESH from Central America , but if you refused to pay them in Illegal aliens Andrea MITCHELL will chainsaw you to pieces and EAT YOU!!!!! #StopMSNBCannibalism

  3. cell phone companies are all Democrats selling your locations!! Just like Google Facebook Twitter!! The Chinese knows all your locations now!! Diane Feinstein driver Chinese spy for 20 years!!

  4. Good, can I buy the location of davey-boy schultzy, Bobby the deuce, and lady Berta? We have some things to discuss 😇

  5. if we are an open border society it isn't fair that only American citizens pay taxes and are responsible for the national debt. Mexico Honduras and especially Israel needs to pay us taxes as it it them that push open borders, and we need to stop all foreign aide. We should be collecting money from mexico for the 30 million illegals, and for the 28% illegal prisoners in our nation. It is time for the Jewish elite commys to sell their mansions and cars and give the money to the poor and homeless, it si time Jews learn to live off $30,00 a year like the rest of us, and it is time the Jews pay for diversity they push on all of us who don't want it NO MORE WARS for Irsael, as we just gave them 38 billion dollars of borrowed money. Let the jews tear down THEIR WALLS and allow blacks to move into Israel and marry their daughters and have black kids, like they push on white women.

  6. Honestly, is this news? We could've seen this coming from miles away. I certainly don't agree, but when the economic system is a race to the bottom for basically everything, of course eventually someone comes up with this to make some extra money.
    Both the ecosystem and the economic system need real oversight!

  7. Only 15 reactions so far and almost half of them seem to be trolls, blaming democrats.
    Apparently this is a very sensitive topic for the right?!

  8. “We must be ready to employ trickery, deceit, law-breaking, withholding and concealing truth… We can and must write in a language which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with us.” — Vladimir Lenin
    "The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses." – Vladimir Lenin
    "A lie told often enough becomes the truth." – Vladimir Lenin
    "Democracy is indispensable to socialism." – Vladimir Lenin
    "The goal of socialism is communism." – Vladimir Lenin
    "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism." – Vladimir Lenin
    "Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik (communist) forever." – Vladimir Lenin

  9. Of course they are. And disabling GPS doesn't actually disable GPS…because 911 location in the case of an emergency, they say. It's for our protection. (Sarcastic)

  10. Mueller must hire some bounty hunters to catch trump, his dirty family and his corrupted administration, at the same times because trump & his family have been professional frauds since few decades ago….

  11. It's not just your cell phone company, your ISP does it too. They don't just sell your location, they sell everything, your passwords, bank accounts, private files on your computer and so on. The largest buyer of our information is the US government, that is why they haven't been caught earlier.

  12. Hypermarketing started with telemarketers and has only increased exponentially with internet and cell technology. The right to privacy MUST supersede corporate marketing. There is no reason for phone apps to require access to your mic, contacts, photos, etc when such things have nothing at all to do with the purpose of the app. Online consumer data MUST be protected far beyond the privacy waivers social media requires to use their services. This has all reached levels of complete absurdity, all in the name of corporatist spying.

  13. The FCC needs to investigate errrr….. Well a functional FCC. I guess we're all screwed because ya know 'MAGA'. Thanks TЯump.

  14. Until there is a federal law that protects the consumer versus the corporations, all people within the USA will have their data sold without any control.

  15. So do I pay my cell phone bill for my health at this rate if they just sell my data while I already officially pay them

  16. Ugh. Really. There are people in domestic violence situations. That is their only lifeline to people and supports. Then you sell that victim's location. $300. Here they are. Some of these people are fleeing for their lives. This makes me sick. But what worrys me is the fact that people all over America all know this now. This needs to stop immediately.

  17. There may have been regulations in place to prevent such things, similar to how there used to be regulations in the US to prevent ISPs from selling customer data, but Trump may have removed such regulations, just as he did those that prevented ISPs from selling customer data. Republicans have long gone on about how awful government regulations are, but many of them are there to protect the public, environment, and so forth, but Trump has been busy removing them since the day he got in office.

  18. Don't be surprised to find out you have already connected to having your location information made available.It's in the fine print under some very sneaky legalese that is construed against the consumer. How often do we get noticed of updated "terms and conditions" and never actually read what we are agreeing to? If we do read them and disagree, our only option is to go to the next company who's T&Cs may not be a "easy."

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